Leaders and Legends

Conversations with Indiana's most influential men and women presented by Veteran Strategies, Inc.

About the show


Leaders and Legends features some of Indiana’s most fascinating men and women whose impact has shaped our state, our communities, and us. Join us as we discuss their imprint on our history. The program is hosted by Robert Vane, principal of Veteran Strategies.

Leaders and Legends is brought to you by Veteran Strategies, Inc. your local veteran business enterprise specializing in public relations, media relations, public outreach, crisis communications, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com

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Episodes and Blog Entries

  • 87: Craig Fehrman on “Authors in Chief: the Untold Story of Our Presidents and the Books They Wrote”

    Episode  |  October 5th, 2020  |  1 hr 19 mins

    Author and historian and Hoosier Craig Fehrman is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. His book, “Authors in Chief: the Untold Story of Our Presidents and the Books They Wrote” is what we bibliophiles call a page turner. Mr Fehrman was born in Dillsboro, Indiana and currently lives in Bloomington with his family. His writings have appeared in the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Wall Street Journal. Craig is a brilliant historian and a terrific interview. Thank you very much for listening.

  • 86: Republican Lou Gerig and Democrat Bill Moreau on “One More Voice”

    Episode  |  September 28th, 2020  |  1 hr 9 mins

    Republican Lou Gerig and Democrat Bill Moreau are long-time friend whose paths have crossed many times during the years. They visited us on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss their careers, how politics has changed, and their new, shared project called “One More Voice” that encourages voter registration and civic engagement. Our friend Jim Shella joins us as co-host.

  • 85: David and Jeanne Heidler, Authors of The Rise of Andrew Jackson: Myth, Manipulation, and the Making of Modern Politics

    Episode  |  September 21st, 2020  |  1 hr 19 mins

    Historians (and husband and wife) David and Jeanne Heidler have written terrific books on George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Henry Clay, and other topics of American history. They join the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss their favorite people in history, what it’s like to teach at university, and answer our celebrated Five Questions. If you enjoy our country’s early history, you will enjoy listening to the Heidlers.

  • 84: Reggie Brooks, Notre Dame Football Great

    Episode  |  September 14th, 2020  |  1 hr 24 mins

    Reggie Brooks is one of the greatest players in the history of Notre Dame football. He was an All-American and made critical, game-changing plays in some of the Irish’s most memorable games. He joins the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to talk about his career, what it’s like being recruited by Lou Holtz, and how the world’s greatest Catholic university changed his life.

  • 83: A Look Into Eric Holcomb’s 106-day Campaign for Governor in 2016

    Episode  |  September 7th, 2020  |  1 hr 22 mins

    Eric Holcomb’s victorious 106-day campaign for governor in 2016 is without precedent in Indiana history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we discuss the campaign with three people who were with the candidate every day: Kyle Hupfer; Michael O’Brien; and Pete Seat. They give you the inside story of how the campaign was won and detail all the challenges and opportunities they experienced.

  • 82: Julie Goodman, Arts Council of Indianapolis CEO

    Episode  |  August 31st, 2020  |  56 mins 53 secs

    Julie Goodman is the president and CEO of the Arts Council of Indianapolis. Julie joins the podcast to talk about her career, her love of Indy, and how the Arts community is crucial to so many of the stresses and challenges we are facing today. Girl Scouts of Central Indiana President and CEO Danielle Shockey is our co-host for a fun and informative discussion.

  • 81: Johnny Rutherford, Three-Time Winner of the Indianapolis 500

    Episode  |  August 26th, 2020  |  1 hr 26 mins

    Johnny Rutherford is one of the most successful and popular drivers in the history of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. A champion of the Indianapolis 500 in 1974, 1976, and 1980, Rutherford captured the poll three times as well. “Lone Star JR” graciously agreed to appear on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast and the result is one of the most interesting and intriguing conversations we’ve had so far.

  • 80: Author Greg Renoff on Ted Templeman, Music Producer to Van Halen and the Doobie Brothers

    Episode  |  August 17th, 2020  |  1 hr 38 mins

    Best-selling music author Dr Greg Renoff returns to the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his biography of famed music producer Ted Templeman (Van Halen, Van Morrison, and the Doobie Brothers among many others). We are joined by rock critic, good friend, and former L & L guest Marc Allan as co-host.

  • 79: Kate Andersen Brower on her book “Team of Five: the Presidents Club in the Age of Trump”

    Episode  |  August 10th, 2020  |  1 hr 12 mins

    Kate Andersen Brower is a journalist, an author, and now a guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Her books include the #1 New York Times bestseller The Residence (about the White House) while her latest book is: “Team of Five: the Presidents Club in the Age of Trump”. Our friend Pete Seat, former White House staffer under President George W. Bush and now a vice president at Bose Public Affairs Group, joins us for a fun and informative discussion. You can learn more about Kate by visiting http://www.katebrower.com.

  • 78: Remembering Former Governor Joe Kernan

    Episode  |  August 3rd, 2020  |  1 hr 21 mins

    Joe Kernan was Irish before he was a naval officer, a prisoner of war before he was mayor, humble before he was governor, and beloved eternally by those who knew him. We lost the governor last week and extend our condolences to his wife Maggie and all who knew and loved him. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with Tina Noel, Kip Tew, and Jim Shella about Governor Kernan’s career, character, and why many of us seemingly had our first meeting with him in a bar.  Very few people personify the word ‘hero' like Joe Kernan did and we hope you enjoy this tribute to his life of service.

  • 77: Lynn Vincent and Sara Vladic on the USS Indianapolis Disaster

    Episode  |  July 27th, 2020  |  1 hr 31 mins

    On July 30, 1945, the USS Indianapolis was sunk in what remains the biggest sea disaster in U.S. naval history. The “Leaders and Legends” podcast this week features an interview with Lynn Vincent and Sara Vladic; they are the authors of “Indianapolis” which is the definitive account of our namesake ship and the men who sailed on her. While both the ship’s mission and her fate was made famous by the movie “Jaws”, Lynn and Sara let us know there is much more to the legend.

  • 76: Mark Boyle, Radio Voice of the Indiana Pacers

    Episode  |  July 20th, 2020  |  1 hr 29 mins

    Mark Boyle is the brilliant and beloved radio voice of our Indiana Pacers. He joins us on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to talk about his career, his chess exploits, his love of Indianapolis, and some of his most memorable Pacers moments.

  • 75: Ted Boehm, Former Justice on the Indiana Supreme Court

    Episode  |  July 13th, 2020  |  1 hr 19 mins

    When it comes to having a varied and impactful career, there are few people in Ted Boehm’s league. He clerked for Chief Justice Earl Warren, helped develop Penrod into a premier arts festival, was chairman of the 1987 Pan Am Games, and served on the Indiana Supreme Court. He is also a member of the IPS Hall of Fame. When I started the “Leaders and Legends” podcast, Ted’s name was one of the first guest recommendations I received. Ted is what being a Hoosier is all about.

  • 74: Brooks Simpson, Historian and Author of Ulysses S. Grant: Triumph over Adversity

    Episode  |  July 5th, 2020  |  1 hr 55 mins

    Brooks Simpson is one of the world’s leading authorities on the life, times, and career of Ulysses S. Grant. Professor Simpson was kind enough to come on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss a man whom I consider the most compelling figure of the American Civil War—yes, even more than Abraham Lincoln. We also discuss the recent History.com series on Grant and why the general’s memoirs are considered a masterpiece of American literature.

  • 73: Jake Query of the IMS Radio Network

    Episode  |  June 29th, 2020  |  1 hr 24 mins

    Jake Query is our guest on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast. He’s been a fixture on the Indianapolis media and sports scene for years, and he may just be the Hoosier King of Twitter (follow him @jakequery). Jake is also an Indianapolis Motor Speedway Radio Network announcer. We also talk with Jake about his opportunity to be a pallbearer for Mickey Rooney’s funeral and what it’s like to exchange letters with Charles Manson.

  • 72: Seth Morales, President of the Morales Group

    Episode  |  June 22nd, 2020  |  1 hr 8 mins

    Our “Leaders and Legends” podcast this week features Seth Morales—who probably knows more people than anyone I’ve ever met. He played in the Rose Bowl while at Purdue, earned his MBA from Notre Dame, and is President of the Morales Group. Seth discusses his work in our community, the realities of being a CEO/dad, and what it’s like to catch passes from Drew Brees.